I love it when the Government bans protests and there is always one guy who knows how to respond.
If I do something and a person dies then I am responsible. It may be that if I couldn’t possibly have known the outcome of my actions then I may not be held directly responsible. However if, after I have been told that people are dying because of my actions, I continue to do that which is causing the deaths then I am surely guilty of murder.
So since the first death directly or indirectly caused by an ATOS decision (who were acting on the instruction of Iain Duncan Smith) it is right that there is a responsibility on IDS and ATOS to stop that which is killing so many people? The lies made by ATOS about peoples fitness for work or lack of it are an act of gross incompetance for personal gain, and should be jailable offences.
That ATOS employed medically trained people to carry out the interviews can only be seen as a callous ploy to absolve themselves of responsibility even though such responsibility rests firmly on their shoulders: because they were pressurising the interviewers into reporting results that were at odds with the truth.
The deaths should be investigated under H&S regs and charges of Corporate manslaughter as a very minimum should be levelled at IDS and ATOS executives. Let us not forget the buck stops with the PM. They had all been told that their actions were killing people. They all know they are guilty of murder to one degree or another.
Our Government is no better than a whole host of other evil dictators who see their own lives as far more important than the people who pay them.
The key players are clearly guilty of manslaughter or murderer, but will they ever be bought to court to answer for their crime. Yes if we shout loud enough!
Gearbox fixed I set off. Here I am at Napton. I am one of two boats on the 48s and there are 3 boats on the 14 day moorings. Plenty of room for another half dozen or more. So why are there two boats moored up on the water point?
The selfishness of some boaters is un-fecking-believable.
I returned to Braunston on the 27th of November. I came back here because the clutch in the box was shot So I need to have have my Gear Box removed taken for repair and then refitted. It took a while for RCR to come get the gearbox out 5 of December. I was hoping to have it back in the following Friday 12 but they came on Monday 15.
Well the plan was to also change the drive plate at the same time because it appeared worn, but on Monday I was told the drive plate didn’t need changing after all. Now my engine has done nearly 10,000 hours and I really didn’t fancy having the gear box out again in a couple of months time so we sourced a new drive plate to fit. However the engineer can’t come till this morning 18 December so I have been sitting here in Braunston for three weeks waiting, waiting, waiting.
All the while it was me who had to keep phoning them to find out what was happening.
I am all in favour of protecting rare species of plants at sites around the country. However when people are building sites especially to become SSSIs then I think we have to draw the line.
It is not acceptable to dredge a section of the Grantham Canal at a cost of £179,000 to promote the growth or a rare ‘pond’ plant that isn’t even growing in the canal yet. Why not plant it in a …………. pond?
CRT are dredging the Grantham Canal between Harby and Redmile so that plants that are being propagated by college students at Brooksby Melton College, can planted in the spring once the dredging work has been completed.
When the Grantham Canal opens (if it ever does) these people will want to control or even prevent boats going down the line.
How fecking stupid can CRT be!
I have a vision from this of Ninja Nature Terrorists sneaking out in the black of night planting rare plants to justify their own existence. I suppose the more rare plants these people sneak into the environment the bigger their budget gets.
The National Bargee Travellers Association (NBTA) recently posted a court ruling about the distance a boat did or didn’t have to move as a continuous cruiser. In effect telling all and sundry that they didn’t have to comply with CRT rules. The NBTA were very selective in which bits of the courts decision they chose to print. What is interesting is the bits they chose to leave out were in direct opposition to their thinking and in effect what they say doesn’t change the status quo one iota. What NBTE did quote was sub-paras of 7.22, but tellingly not 7.21 or 7.22.1;
7.21 It seems to me that the expression
‘navigation’ clearly means the process of taking any purposeful journey from one specific point to another by water. The addition of the words "bona fide" import an entirely subjective element and merely mean that the journey must be undertaken for genuine purposes and not for the purpose of circumventing the legislation, when in reality the intention of the boat owner is to stay as nearly as possible in the same place.
7.22.1 It is, as I have already said several times, unnecessary for me to comment on whether the guidelines match the legislation. I do so in only two respects and with the express proviso that this does not form part of the decision.
So from this I gather the status ‘Continuous Avoider’ aka Bridge Hopper (those who are circumventing the legislation) is now no longer in the boaters dictionary.
£35 for a toilet roll holder For £35 I could have got the Holder the shower rack and four cushions and a handful of change for lunch. Why are these people (who purport to be our superiors) not clever enough to be able to do that.As long as these public servants are allowed ideas above ‘our’ station this abuse will continue. The solution is simple. Only allow them to buy from IKEA. After all it is only a second home. They will be spending most of their time staying in a hotel around the corner anyway.
They are the peoples employees and what is good enough for us should be good enough for them.
Aside from its angling connotation trolling is now an internet phenomenon. I think the term comes from pre-internet days when some one would ‘cast’ a controversial comment into a discussion. There would always be one member, or more, of the group who would ‘take the bait’ and depending on which way the discussion was going it would warm up a bit, maybe change tack or even kill the conversation completely. The caster could then be said to have ‘reeled ‘em in’. The modern day take on trolling is as in Troll under the bridge
The same goes for today on the internet. A perfectly reasonable discussion is taking place and occasionally someone drops in a comment sometimes to stir things up a bit or designed to cause mayhem. Some people are very good at that although why that is a problem I don’t understand.
Today it is not the same world we used to live in. It would seem we all have to ‘play nicely’ and be good little ‘girls and boys’. There is no shortage of people who will come along and let you know you are not ‘behaving’. And they are really annoying. If I want mothering I know where to go. I don’t need some anally retentive degenerate to mother me.
These people are usually PC fascists. Now I know people don’t like that term but they are. PCFs are out there and becoming an increasingly large group who think they have some god given right to tell each and every one of us about manners and playing nicely, how we should behave, and how we should talk to people.
I for one actually hate them because these people are the real trolls. They hide behind their ‘holier than thou’ smarmy smile As soon as the PCFs have made their point others in the group begin to align with them. That’s when the bullying really starts. Those who align dump on the person the PCFs are trolling and though seemingly inert start posting comments that oppose the objects view irrespective of whether he is right or wrong, or that have nothing to do with the topic such as changing the discussion to cookery. This is indeed a very immature thing to do and serves no purpose but to sideline the poor person who has an opposing view with the intention of making him leave the conversation. Like it or not this is a classic bullying tactic! We don’t want you in our club get out!
Eventually a moderator may step in. His/her actions could take one of three paths. Firstly they can delete comments you have made. This is censorship and is practiced by people who do not really understand what it is they are actually doing. Secondly they can delete whole post from the original opening post down to the last comment. This again is censorship, but not only have they denied the bullied person their say, they have also denied other contributors in the thread their say and of course removed any evidence of the problem. Should the bullied person wish to complain he has no evidence? Thirdly they can exclude the bullied person from the group. This is a big no-no. I think if this action is required it should be put before a magistrate. I say this because the bullied person is the victim and to exclude him because of his opinion is no different to excluding someone because of his colour/gender/sexual preference etc.
The problem with the PCFs is they can’t be wrong! Their first comment to you is designed to make you leave the conversation. And a lot of people would for an easy life. Once you have left the PCFs get a heightened idea of who he is and proclaims the victory. Further more this ‘victory’ only serves to spur him on to further attacks on others. Even his ‘aligned’ enclave of cyber-bullies are not exempt should they say the wrong thing. It’s a bit like ‘Do ya wanna be in my gang’.
Of course if you spot these people and stick to your guns and point out that they are the trolls they come back with something like “And we call that Projection LOL” Well it not funny so why LOL! And he is simply trying to hammer home his POV with his cyber bully gang. He has been caught out and rather than just give in he bites harder. It is at this point that you should leave because there is no way he will let you get away with showing him up in front of the gang.
Despite your protestations that what you said was relevant to the thread he will continue to justify his trolling. Here you have to terminate because you know you are right and he is wrong and in a short while the mods will start deleting comments and you may well be proven right.
So lets analyse a conversation I had recently.It all started innocently with the three posts
This is not the first time he has said this in fact this is often his first comment on a thread.
And then about an hour later
It was a couple of hours before I saw these comments and it struck me that there was maybe some irony in these comments in that they seemed to oppose each other a bit and I kinda said so. I see nothing wrong with what I wrote.
Well that, to me is where it started because Darren let off a fire cracker with this,
He didn’t originally say he saw the funny side of it. Had he done so maybe I wouldn’t have made my comment. I definitely wasn’t trolling. However his next two sentences are totally out of order and if he felt so strong about it, it could have been dealt with by PM. I most certainly wasn’t trolling and it is polite to mention the person to whom you are referring. And then he followed up with ….people whom cycle…..I can only think he was trying to be clever and it failed. Most people can’t use ‘whom’ in the right place and so don’t even try. This was so blatantly wrong. What was he trying to prove? (I wonder if I just did)
This obviously got up his nose because this was his next post,
Now I don’t understand this. This oik is a nob. I think he is making up the rules as he goes along. His response is quite wrong. What has actually happened is I have challenged him and that is a no-no. I most certainly was not trolling, just bringing two statements together to illuminate the position. Its not my fault he is incapable of expressing himself clearly.
I responded with
Which in itself is a put down I suppose. I have seen him on FB before and he makes a habit of this sort of behaviour so I told him so. Having not been trolling anyone, today, I pointed out that he was the problem
Well that was definitely a challenge because he then came back with a time honoured rebuke which to mind proved my position. I could see this coming a mile away.
Oh Darren what a nob you are. Yes projection is the right word but aimed at the wrong person. You are the troll and you are just trying to lay it on me. I can now no longer be bothered with this shit.
Of course then in comes the Moderator. Her comments were only serving her purpose of being a moderator. I had left the conversation I was not likely to comment again. She is not reminding everyone that there are rules she was reminding me and Darren. It wasn’t ‘most unpleasant’, it wasn’t nice others might have stepped away at the first rebuke, but ‘most unpleasant’ I don’t think so.
Here her comments are made to reinforce her position as a moderator. She did however leave the first three comments on the thread
I don’t like censorship in any form so I had to say that.
Others agreed with me!
In all things internet there will be those who for what ever reason have to give people a virtual slap and calling someone a troll is just that, it’s a weapon of control and (I probably do it more than I realise) depending who it is used on can be just as effective as a tazer.The trouble is once this cat is let out of the bag it is difficult to put it back. Even if complaints are made the jibe is out there and that just may colour the judgement of others when they are dealing with you. I know I am out spoken but when I say something it is considered and heart felt. Yeah you may not like what I say but I have a right to say it. Yes you can challenge what I say but slapping is as out of order on the net as it would be in face to face confrontations.
1. Share the space consider other people and the local environment whenever you’re on a Greenway. Remember some people may move less predictably, for example young children or those with visual or mobility impairments.
2. Drop your pace considerate sharing of the limited towpath space is the key. Jogging and cycling are welcome, but drop your pace in good time and let people know you are approaching by ringing a bell or politely calling out before waiting to pass slowly.
3. Pedestrians have priority towpaths are ‘Greenways’ or shared use routes where pedestrians have priority and vehicles, except bicycles and mobility aids, are generally excluded.
4. Be courteous to others – A smile can go a long way. Abusive or threatening behaviour is not acceptable and should be reported to the Police.
5. Follow signs and obey local by-laws they are there for the safety of everyone. Cyclists should dismount where required and use common sense in busy or restricted areas, recognising that pedestrians have priority.
6. Give way to oncoming people beneath bridges whether they are on foot or bike and be extra careful at bends and entrances where visibility is limited.
7. When travelling in large groups, especially if you are running or cycling, please use common sense and give way to others.
8. Try to avoid wearing headphones as this makes you less aware of your surroundings possible hazards and others sharing the same space.
9. Keep dogs under control ideally using a short lead on busy towpaths and clean-up after them. Dog fouling is very unpleasant and is a health hazard.
10. At all times, keep children close to you and encourage them to learn and follow the Greenway Code for Towpaths.
….would anyone deface the post. This is just above RAVENS Lock in Berkhampstead. This particular post is at the top of the lock just after the lock mooring.
There has been some controversy there of late with one of the residents complaining about people trampling the flowers she has planted along the towpath side.
….whose boat this is. This is not about who, but what. This was taken outside a London Tesco Store. This is totally unacceptable and does nothing but bring boaters into disrepute. Two things: there are plenty of bollards, and it is bad practice to use a centre line to moor a boat. In flood conditions a tied centre line can roll a boat on its side. Centre lines are for handling a boat. If you don’t believe me ask BMF RYA & CRT! ARRRRGGGHHHHH!
Thirty five years ago I took a photograph of my then girlfriend outside No 10, I mean right outside the front door. Nowadays you can get nowhere near unless you are a member of the criminal club that is The Government.
Only bad governments need this sort of security.
This is a close as you can get. So much for democracy. Actually I think its next door.