Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Love the Gov

What a caring government we have. In response to a petition for separate service hospitals they have said this:-

The Government is entirely committed to providing excellent medical care for the members of the Armed Forces and for veterans and we share the aspiration of the petitioners to see Servicemen and women and veterans receive the best medical care possible. However, we do not believe that this would be achieved by attempting to create a separate military and veterans hospital in the UK.

Then they said this:-

“The principle behind the decision to move from stand-alone military hospitals to facilities which co-operate with the NHS was the right one, from a clinical, administrative and financial point of view.”

So its not about money then?

The former UK military hospitals, which have been progressively phased out from the mid 1990s, increasingly failed to offer the range and volume of cases that military doctors, nurses and allied health professionals needed to remain at the leading edge of their professions. This is a pre-requisite for providing the best possible operational medical care which is at the heart of
the Defence Medical Services.

It's about the career path of the clinicians. Oh well thats alright then.


Adam said...

Don't be a klutz. If decent doctors don't want to work in a hospital (and there is a huge shortage of qualified medical staff across the country) then how the hell is it going to provide high quality care?

kh (now a de-militarised zone) said...

I undrstood that there was a surfeit of doctors in training and no jobs for them to go to ................ or was that last year ?

When talking of military personnel, maybe there is more at stake than clinical concerns.

Miss T said...

Twas ever thus...

by Rudyard Kipling (1865-1936)

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

kh said...

Thank you Miss T. Kipling says it exactly. It is a mixed Blessing that none of the cabinets members or their families have ever been involved with military service.

It is good because they have not lost any one but they completely fail to understand the effect that armed conflict can have on individuals and their families.

Very few who have been in a conflict wish to go back for a second experience.

Good to know that the GB Public cares. Well some do.

Heth said...

Maybe the government should concentrate more on providing our troops with the proper equipment in the first place. Maybe then there'd be a lesser number of our brave soldiers needing medical attention anyway. How often do we here cases of lives being lost due to equipment being issued that isn't up to spec? The Government could even be classed as the "enemy within" - if it can't afford to send troops out there with the level of protection necessary - then they shouldn't be sending them at all. Priority's don't matter - they just don't care. Our own son is a soldier in the Royal Logistics Corps & his troop is due to go to Afghanistan in January. It will be his first tour of duty which means we have to stay strong & put aside any resentment towards corrupted politicians & their stupid decisions.
Support our troops...

kh said...

Well said, Heth. I don't know where you live and I hope Maffi doesn't mind me advertising but our local branch of the Royal British Legion regularly sends shoeboxes full of little luxury items to soldiers serving in Afghanistan & Iraq to let them know they have not been forgotten. See

Talk to your local Branch and see if they will adopt the idea. We have sent about 1500 shoeboxes since February and I know that there are other Branches doing the same. If not, when he gets there you would care to fwd his address to Maffi or the Secretary of Calne RBL *that's me)and I will add him to the list of addresses that we send boxes to.

Safe Home to ALL our troops. Thanks Maffi for allowing me to Hi-jack your blog for this important message.

Heth & Dave said...

Hi Kh, I just took a look at your website, what very caring people you are, I'm a jolly sort & it takes a lot to make me cry these days - but anything to do with our soldiers has me in floods of tears. Where tragedy strikes, as the mother of a soldier I feel the family's pain, & it goes right to my heart. I don't want to hijack Maffi's blog anymore, is your email address one of those on the Welfare page? Or click on my profile & send to my email. Thanks

saltysplash said...

When I first started working in Woolwich in 1985 we were lucky to have the Queen Elizabeth Military Hospital on our ground, Compared to the Brook NHS Hospital it was fantastic.
Woolwich Police had a very close association with the army and one or two of our number were fortunate enough to receive treatment at the QEMH following assaults on them while at work. I missed out when it came to my turn, I sat for 4 hours in full uniform in the Brook Casualty dept with my nose plastered across my face :(

Maybe 10 years ago the financial side of the military hospitals decided that there wasnt enough patients forthcoming from the services to justify Military hospitals anymore, Its tragic that no one had the foresight to maintain them now that we have so many committments across the globe for our service men and women who deserve a dedicated medical establishment when the unthinkable happens.
They deserve the best, for theirs is the sacrifice in our name

kh said...

Brilliant Saltysplash. The RBL is Pushing for just one military hospital not the 10 or so there were 30 years ago.

Heth I am the Hon Sec or general dogbody. Will send PM.

Thanks Maffi.

Heth said...

Tuesday is "poetry day" on my blog,in light of Maffi's post & all it's comments, & as the mother of a soldier - I've dedicated yesterdays poems to all our soldiers & paid tribute to the heros who protect us & those who have laid down their lives...